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Jeanie
Posted 2010-02-06 7:41 AM (#337981)
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UB40 - Labour Of Love IV.

Ali Campbell may no longer be part of the group but with his brother Duncan taking control of the vocals, UB40 return with another instalment of their Labour Of Love series. With 14 cover songs this is essentially the kind of album you spot in the bargain bucket of a motorway service station album. You're drawn in by the great artists mentioned on the cover only to find once you've set off on the long drive that actually you didn't look closely enough and it's all bland covers rather than the originals. The album includes covers of Smokey Robinson's Tracks Of My Tears, Sam Cooke's Bring It On Home To Me and Delroy Wilson's Close To Me tune. None of the covers come close to the quality of the original tunes and it will take a hardened UB40 fan to rate this album.

Rating: 4/10 (Review by Polly Weeks).

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random guy
Posted 2010-02-06 8:21 AM (#337984 - in reply to #337981)
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:/ oh dear, i do feel sorry for them but then again after how much they slate ali im glad it isnt lookin god
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Talking Blackbird
Posted 2010-02-06 9:19 AM (#337985 - in reply to #337981)
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OOOOOhhhhh - That's my local paper - will have to look see if its in the actual paper - cause if it is , I can take it to work and let the animals shite on it cause by the rating its got and from what I've heard  thats all its good for
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Jeanie
Posted 2010-02-06 9:23 AM (#337989 - in reply to #337985)
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Talking Blackbird - 2010-02-06 9:19 AM OOOOOhhhhh - That's my local paper - will have to look see if its in the actual paper - cause if it is , I can take it to work and let the animals shite on it cause by the rating its got and from what I've heard  thats all its good for

 

 

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random guy
Posted 2010-02-06 12:30 PM (#337998 - in reply to #337981)
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lisa_5
Posted 2010-02-06 12:57 PM (#337999 - in reply to #337981)
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Ouch....
Sadly though,from the samples I have heard,that is an accurate review,nuff said.
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Sardonicus
Posted 2010-02-06 3:04 PM (#338001 - in reply to #337985)
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Talking Blackbird - 2010-02-06 9:19 AM

OOOOOhhhhh - That's my local paper - will have to look see if its in the actual paper - cause if it is , I can take it to work and let the animals shite on it cause by the rating its got and from what I've heard  thats all its good for

 

Polly....

Is Polly your professional name Ang?



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Schert
Posted 2010-02-06 8:21 PM (#338006 - in reply to #337981)
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If you look hard enough you can find a review to suit anyone


All had Ali as a lead singer ... It is what it is - I like what I have heard from the new UB40 album - But thats just me.



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Delta Moon
Posted 2010-02-06 9:12 PM (#338008 - in reply to #338006)
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Radical origins in the London punk scene???????

I had no idea I was part of the London punk scene when I first heard UB40 playing in the Fighting Cocks in Moseley. My God! And me a historian specialising in the late 70's / early 80's and all!

Well you live and learn! Thanks for that Karl!
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Schert
Posted 2010-02-06 9:30 PM (#338009 - in reply to #338008)
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I would say that UB40 were right in the thick of the punk scene and probably couldn't help but be a little influenced with Ska etc coming through in the mid to late 70's... but more to the point you wouldn't be disagreening with a RollingStone reviewer - I guess my point is a review does not make it so - and for people to jump on the band wagon and be petty is sad - I think the UB site can be as bad - but it is shit when you go to a bands website to see whats happening (I do like Ali's music) only to see a large part is made up of petty crap.... and thats enough of me contributing to the crap.
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Delta Moon
Posted 2010-02-06 9:36 PM (#338010 - in reply to #338009)
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UB40 didn't want to be associated with Ska at all - they saw that as retrograde, despite getting on well with the two-tone bands who were around at the time. I could bore you to tears with the late seventies/ early eighties Karl, but won't! And we can (and I would) disagree with the Rolling Stone reviewer, who hadn't done their homework. I quite agree with you though that one review is not representative. Welcome to the Forum by the way!
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Gracie-Ali
Posted 2010-02-06 9:56 PM (#338012 - in reply to #337981)
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Sardonicus
Posted 2010-02-06 11:10 PM (#338018 - in reply to #338009)
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Schert - 2010-02-06 9:30 PM

I would say that UB40 were right in the thick of the punk scene and probably couldn't help but be a little influenced with Ska etc coming through in the mid to late 70's... but more to the point you wouldn't be disagreening with a RollingStone reviewer - I guess my point is a review does not make it so - and for people to jump on the band wagon and be petty is sad - I think the UB site can be as bad - but it is shit when you go to a bands website to see whats happening (I do like Ali's music) only to see a large part is made up of petty crap.... and thats enough of me contributing to the crap.

 

What a load of crap!

There's no need to get Scherty?

UB40 were in the thick of the punk scene?

Really? Coz i swear, I've never seen Ali piss on the audience!

Ska, mid 70's?

I always thought that from the mid 70's it went......

Punk.

Then come John Travolta and The Bee Gees.. Followed hand in hand with Carl Douglas, coz everybody was Kung-Fu Fighting!

Then it was the 2Tone ska now i can see where you are coming from with the punk influence there. It's like attitude learning how to play bass! But UB40 only ever jumped on that train to reach a bigger audience, they wasn't really influenced by it......... I thought they were influenced mainly through reggae and motown?

Then came the "New romantics" Boys that wore make-up??

I didn't go that far, but did have my hair permed on top a few times!

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Sardonicus
Posted 2010-02-06 11:11 PM (#338019 - in reply to #338012)
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Gracie-Ali - 2010-02-06 9:56 PM

What happened



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Delta Moon
Posted 2010-02-06 11:21 PM (#338021 - in reply to #338018)
Subject: Re: Not looking good again :(


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Sardonicus - 2010-02-06 11:10 PM

Schert - 2010-02-06 9:30 PM

I would say that UB40 were right in the thick of the punk scene and probably couldn't help but be a little influenced with Ska etc coming through in the mid to late 70's... but more to the point you wouldn't be disagreening with a RollingStone reviewer - I guess my point is a review does not make it so - and for people to jump on the band wagon and be petty is sad - I think the UB site can be as bad - but it is shit when you go to a bands website to see whats happening (I do like Ali's music) only to see a large part is made up of petty crap.... and thats enough of me contributing to the crap.

 

What a load of crap!

There's no need to get Scherty?

UB40 were in the thick of the punk scene?

Really? Coz i swear, I've never seen Ali piss on the audience!

Ska, mid 70's?

I always thought that from the mid 70's it went......

Punk.

Then come John Travolta and The Bee Gees.. Followed hand in hand with Carl Douglas, coz everybody was Kung-Fu Fighting!

Then it was the 2Tone ska now i can see where you are coming from with the punk influence there. It's like attitude learning how to play bass! But UB40 only ever jumped on that train to reach a bigger audience, they wasn't really influenced by it......... I thought they were influenced mainly through reggae and motown?

Then came the "New romantics" Boys that wore make-up??

I didn't go that far, but did have my hair permed on top a few times!

Micky - I couldn't have put it better!  But I would have bored everyone to tears with 1981! Also bear in mind that there was a whole cultural difference between Birmingham and London at the time! While Birmingham was a cultural melting pot, the same was not true of London.

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Schert
Posted 2010-02-07 12:07 AM (#338022 - in reply to #337981)
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By being in the thick of the punk scene I meant that this was happening all around them with ska and punk merging - I cant believe I am getting into an argument over this from New Zealand but what the hell - Madness formed around 1976 the specials around 77 ...can argue that Ska started in the west indies / Jamaica - The original "Easy Snapping" song on the new Labour of Love IV album is considered by many to be one of the first Ska songs recorded in 1959 ... maybe a bit of an influence?? Birmingham I would guess (and only a guess) had a larger number of immigrants than most other areas from the west indies and with them came their musical influences. I also recall UB40 having a lot do do with one of the Specials albums - so to say they did not look favourably on Ska?? - maybe you are right I dont know but they do in my opinion have influences here and there - there is even a youtube clip of UB40 playing with madness. I am by no means an expert on anything but as mentioned earlier on you can always find info to back you up whether its right or wrong - just an opinion thats all.

Anyways gone off topic a bit.

And please enough already with the emoticons.
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Schert
Posted 2010-02-07 12:22 AM (#338023 - in reply to #337981)
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Just to add with another expert opinion from NZ I would say heavy metal had a stronghold on a good part of the 70's in Birmingham the punk scene would have been starting in the south a bit earlier and would have reached Birmingham later in 70's?? Maybe

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Delta Moon
Posted 2010-02-07 12:24 AM (#338024 - in reply to #338022)
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Schert - 2010-02-07 12:07 AM By being in the thick of the punk scene I meant that this was happening all around them with ska and punk merging - I cant believe I am getting into an argument over this from New Zealand but what the hell - Madness formed around 1976 the specials around 77 ...can argue that Ska started in the west indies / Jamaica - The original "Easy Snapping" song on the new Labour of Love IV album is considered by many to be one of the first Ska songs recorded in 1959 ... maybe a bit of an influence?? Birmingham I would guess (and only a guess) had a larger number of immigrants than most other areas from the west indies and with them came their musical influences. I also recall UB40 having a lot do do with one of the Specials albums - so to say they did not look favourably on Ska?? - maybe you are right I dont know but they do in my opinion have influences here and there - there is even a youtube clip of UB40 playing with madness. I am by no means an expert on anything but as mentioned earlier on you can always find info to back you up whether its right or wrong - just an opinion thats all. Anyways gone off topic a bit. And please enough already with the emoticons.

As a Coventry girl who knows some of the band members from the Specials I would have to disagree with the bit about UB40 having a lot to do with one of the Specials albums.  Which one are you refering to? UB40 and many of the 2-tone (and I'm using the term loosely with Madness, who weren't 2-tone for long) groups were good friends, playing similar music at the same time, and often shared a stage. I still don't see UB40 in the thick of what was happening on the punk scene.  They were completely unique, musically and philosophically.  I didn't say they didn't look favourably on Ska - but they didn't view it as a step forward musically. Once again, welcome Karl!



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Schert
Posted 2010-02-07 12:39 AM (#338025 - in reply to #338024)
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The album is Today's Specials (1996)- Mixed at what was DEP and record label is Kuff and I think (not 100%) that a couple of UB40 are guest on the album or possibly on the single Hypocrite b-sides?? - The album to me definitely has a much more ub40 feel than the rest of the Specials albums - I am guessing it may have been too commercial for the average Specials fan.
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Delta Moon
Posted 2010-02-07 12:46 AM (#338026 - in reply to #338025)
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Schert - 2010-02-07 12:39 AM The album is Today's Specials (1996)- Mixed at what was DEP and record label is Kuff and I think (not 100%) that a couple of UB40 are guest on the album or possibly on the single Hypocrite b-sides?? - The album to me definitely has a much more ub40 feel than the rest of the Specials albums - I am guessing it may have been too commercial for the average Specials fan.

Thanks Karl - I will have a listen to it.  I only have the original albums.

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Schert
Posted 2010-02-07 12:48 AM (#338027 - in reply to #338026)
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No worries enjoyed the banter.
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Delta Moon
Posted 2010-02-07 12:50 AM (#338028 - in reply to #338027)
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Me too!
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Delta Moon
Posted 2010-02-07 12:58 AM (#338029 - in reply to #338023)
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Schert - 2010-02-07 12:22 AM Just to add with another expert opinion from NZ I would say heavy metal had a stronghold on a good part of the 70's in Birmingham the punk scene would have been starting in the south a bit earlier and would have reached Birmingham later in 70's?? Maybe

The 1970's were very tribal and heavy metal had a big following in the late 1970's.  Birmingham is Britain's second City, and punk arrived in Brum at pretty much the same time as it emerged in the south of England. Don't get me started Karl  - I'm a boring historian and I'll send you to sleep! and it's still the middle of the day for you!

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Sardonicus
Posted 2010-02-07 1:37 AM (#338030 - in reply to #338022)
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Schert - 2010-02-07 12:07 AM

By being in the thick of the punk scene I meant that this was happening all around them with ska and punk merging - I cant believe I am getting into an argument over this from New Zealand but what the hell - Madness formed around 1976 the specials around 77 ...can argue that Ska started in the west indies / Jamaica - The original "Easy Snapping" song on the new Labour of Love IV album is considered by many to be one of the first Ska songs recorded in 1959 ... maybe a bit of an influence?? Birmingham I would guess (and only a guess) had a larger number of immigrants than most other areas from the west indies and with them came their musical influences. I also recall UB40 having a lot do do with one of the Specials albums - so to say they did not look favourably on Ska?? - maybe you are right I dont know but they do in my opinion have influences here and there - there is even a youtube clip of UB40 playing with madness. I am by no means an expert on anything but as mentioned earlier on you can always find info to back you up whether its right or wrong - just an opinion thats all.

Anyways gone off topic a bit.

And please enough already with the emoticons.

Having arguments with yourself is the 1st sign of madness!

There certainly is, have you seen it as well?

And are you seriously attempting to tell me what i can and can not post?

So you don't like the emoticons? Well it's tough then, coz i do!

People can post whatever they like, even if it's a plug for LOL4!

I can see you are a fan of American TV? Or you are the only Kiwi that say's "Enough Already"

Unless for every Englishman in New York, there's an American in Dunedin?

Crack a smile. It won't break your face!

 

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Schert
Posted 2010-02-07 2:23 AM (#338031 - in reply to #337981)
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Not sure if its a good thing but in NZ we do get alot of American shows ... as well as the British - I had to do a special order on the internet to have a look at the Spaced tv series - never made it here and its brilliant. Dunedin is at the opposite (arse end) to me - I'm just north of Auckland. All the emoticons are going to give me an epileptic fit.
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